Clean Slate

• here's the link to Frankie's board in case someone comes looking. - billybob

Tue Jan 2 15:04:22 2007 billybob

• I've been away a few days. Can someone update me on where to find my pals...sm - Kelly

Sat Dec 30 18:50:33 2006 Kelly
Is this board closing now - I just cant follow the posts.

Thanks!

*** • Billy Bob rescued us, but now MTSpot is back up, under new ownership. - jfyi

Sat Dec 30 18:53:19 2006 jfyi

****** • So, back to Spot I go. Thanks so much! nm - Kelly

Sat Dec 30 18:59:17 2006 Kelly
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• What is weirder: Watching an execution, or putting hexes on people? I vote hexes! - nm

Sat Dec 30 18:10:20 2006 nm

*** • This is how I vote. - Anna

Sat Dec 30 18:38:25 2006 Anna
I vote you as wierder for even asking such a stupid question. There's no such thing as a hex but there is such a thing a sick people such as you getting off watching someone die on video. God help you.

****** • No such thing as hexes? You better tell Rae that! - nm

Sat Dec 30 18:52:02 2006 nm

• well all the girls are looking pretty now -- - billybob

Sat Dec 30 18:03:19 2006 billybob
and that means it must be near closing time.

Here's an hour's warning (to give you all a chance to tell me how wonderful I am) before I shut off the posting program. Of course I'll be leaving the page and archives up for you to access. Hopefully with 24 hours' notice, most everyone will be aware of what's going on by now.

Hope you'll give Lorin a chance. She seems to be in deeper than she expected, but she's making every effor to be nice to everyone.

*** • I wish you were reconsider. I really appreciate what you have done for us. - sleepyhead

Sat Dec 30 18:44:45 2006 sleepyhead

*** • Thanks Billybob! This may not be so bad afterall. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. - Naive in Illinois

Sat Dec 30 18:36:08 2006 Naive in Illinois

*** • Shame on you for shutting down! But love ya anyways, lol. - Cat

Sat Dec 30 18:18:34 2006 Cat
Thank you kindly for all you did, and do.

*** • BillyBob, g-o w-a-n-k i-t o-f-f - Sme

Sat Dec 30 18:12:09 2006 Sme

*** • You're not so bad yourself, bigboy ;) awww BB wish ya wouldn't close down sm - Mae West

Sat Dec 30 18:09:07 2006 Mae West
thank you for everything, I'm sure everyone here appreciates you and your time involved. Thanks BB

• To all the demented who like to watch death videos.. - Great Dictator

Sat Dec 30 17:55:13 2006 Great Dictator
We lugged in the popcorn machine just for you, complete with butter to make you even fatter than you already are.

To the left of the popcorn is the coke machine. Help yourself. More sugar to add to your obese twisted bodies.

And to the left of the coke machine is the manure pile because all of you who partake in watching these videos are pure pigs.

Oink oink!

*** • Do you say the same to those who watch executions in this country? Recent article about - SM

Sat Dec 30 18:21:00 2006 SM
those who fulfill this necessary duty. Very thought provoking, sensitive people with varied reasons for doing so. I think this may be along the same vein & not to fulfill some salacious or twisted need as you seem to feel.

*** • You've summed it up appropriately. - That's It!

Sat Dec 30 18:02:32 2006 That's It!
This board is comprised of some real sick animals who pose as human women, I want nothing to do with it or them. It makes my hair stand on in. I am so out of this place.

*** • If you don't want to watch, then don't. Why does it bother you so much if someone else - does? nm

Sat Dec 30 17:56:25 2006 does? nm

• Not sure who might be interested, but I found a full vid. of the execution. sm - BigM

Sat Dec 30 16:27:06 2006 BigM
It's not a whole lot more than what is already out there, and I'm sure there has got to be better quality than this somewhere. It's not too graphic, but does show the floor release. You can hear them all talking/chanting/praying...whatever it is, it's freaky.

I understand if you delete this, I tried to give enough warning, but I know quite a few people have been waiting to see it.

*** • Thanks for posting it, BigM. I for want did want to see it and had not seen it yet. - nm

Sat Dec 30 17:36:39 2006 nm
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*** • Thanks BM. You're not alone. & Good riddance to bad rubbish, as they say. - nm

Sat Dec 30 17:15:18 2006 nm

*** • You in their right mind would want to see a video of a death - Trula

Sat Dec 30 16:38:48 2006 Trula
...or a video leading up to a death.

Are you out of your mind?

****** • Not everyone is the same. Some people can handle graphic things and some cannot. - sm

Sat Dec 30 17:31:21 2006 sm
If no one could handle things involving death, there would be no crime scene investigators, no morticians, no hospice workers, etc. Someone is not "out of their mind" for being interested in something that you are not interested in. I am interested in all things medical - from birth to death. Long before I had children I was interested in SEEING a childbirth. I have always been interested in seeing surgeries. I love to watch Dr. G, Medical Examiner. I have participated in the Court TV forums for a long time and everything surrounding crime scenes/murders, etc. is interesting to me, and I am far from alone. When there was a discussion at Court TV about adipocere, I was fascinated. I found out everything I could about it. I am interested in how the time of death is determined by core body temperature, stomach contents, rigor mortis, livor mortis, etc. It is interesting to me. You are probably interested in other things - that's okay. We are different.

And in Saddam's

********* • It isn't about not being able to "handle" it. It's about some ENJOYING seeing - a REAL death. nm

Sat Dec 30 17:42:13 2006 a REAL death. nm

************ • You're one sick broad! - Rae

Sat Dec 30 17:48:59 2006 Rae
Enjoy your death videos....but remember....

"What you do will come back to you."

Consider yourself hexed!

*************** • Look, just so we're straight on this, I DIDN'T watch the video and don't intend to. - Hex someone else.nm

Sat Dec 30 18:08:11 2006 Hex someone else.nm

*************** • LOL. I think you are the weirdo - putting hexes on people. And as was stated, no one is - ENJOYING it. Weirdo

Sat Dec 30 17:50:14 2006 ENJOYING it. Weirdo

****************** • I know who you are. - Rae

Sat Dec 30 18:06:16 2006 Rae
It doesn't take much for most folks to know that. You're SHowing your shining colOrs.

********************* • What's with the caps inside your post? Is that supposed to be a clue as to who you - think it is? nm

Sat Dec 30 18:21:42 2006 think it is? nm

********************* • I don't think you do. In fact, I KNOW you don't. nm - nm

Sat Dec 30 18:07:34 2006 nm

************ • No one is ENJOYING it. If you don't want to see it, don't watch. I didn't - enjoy dissecting

Sat Dec 30 17:44:09 2006 enjoy dissecting
cadavers in anatomy lab, either, but I wanted to learn so I did it. If just knowing he is dead is enough for you - then GOOD! But don't dictate to others what they should or should not find interesting.

****** • Me and a lot of other people in this case. I'm sure I'm not alone in sm - BigM

Sat Dec 30 16:49:05 2006 BigM
wanting to see his demise. He was a horrible creature of the Earth - hardly human. Who wouldn't want to witness the end of this monster?

********* • So get wet! - Becky

Sat Dec 30 17:41:00 2006 Becky
You're asking who wouldn't want to see his actual demise? Anyone with a shred of decency wouldn't want to see it. Isn't it enough to know the monster is dead or is it really necessary that you look at all the morbid details and squirm in delight when doing so. So have at it. Get your granny panties wet you scum wierdo.

************ • This isn't Becky from Arkansas, is it? I think we have an imposter here. Doesn't sound - like our Becky. nm

Sat Dec 30 17:42:26 2006 like our Becky. nm

*************** • No. It's not me. I've been Becky for a long time. I don't want to be Becky 2. Call me - Becky

Sat Dec 30 18:50:46 2006 Becky
stupid but I don't want to change my name. How silly is that? LOL. I've been around a long time posting with my own name.

****************** • Well see, I could tell from the post it wasn't you. No, don't change your name! - nm

Sat Dec 30 18:53:05 2006 nm

********* • It's so sad what people have come to this age - nm

Sat Dec 30 17:28:41 2006 nm
For those of you who like to see death videos, all I can say is that you've all got a warped mind. Have fun and get your rocks off.

********* • My dad was a sadistic, abusive, vulture, but watching his horrific death I could do sm - Mia

Sat Dec 30 16:54:03 2006 Mia
without and so as Saddam's. Thanks for at least posting what it was really about so we could CHOOSE not to watch it.

************ • So.... - nm

Sat Dec 30 17:33:38 2006 nm
The description of your dad.....are you looking for sympathy? Obviously so, but when you enjoy looking at a video of someone dying, you're just as bad as your dad and certainly no better them him. Phew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

************ • That was the point of my message content. Some do want to see it, some don't. sm - BigM

Sat Dec 30 17:00:01 2006 BigM
I don't see anything wrong with feeling either way about it. As with everything in life, there are always choices. Making someone feel like a bottom-feeder for wanting to witness it isn't any more right than suggesting that those who don't want to see it were in support of him.

It's a hard video to find, and I knew there were some that wanted to see it, so I posted the link. Nothing more, nothing less. Those who don't want to see it can clearly see what is inside my post and can pass it by, those who do are probably already watching it.

*************** • BigM - *YOU* are a swine for posting that link. - All of us

Sat Dec 30 17:30:09 2006 All of us
God will deal with YOU!

****************** • Looks like the troll arrived early tonight. - nm

Sat Dec 30 17:51:49 2006 nm

****************** • OH get over yourself. If you don't want to watch it, don't watch. Now quit calling people - names.

Sat Dec 30 17:47:05 2006 names.

****************** • Really? All she did was post a link to a topic of interest to a lot of people sm - shelene

Sat Dec 30 17:45:33 2006 shelene
she did not videotape the execution herself for crying out loud! She posted it AND gave a "heads up" so we could decide if we wanted to view it or not.

God will deal with ALL of us one day. Including you.

****************** • She is no such thing. She posted it and if you don't want to watch it, no one is forcing - you to. nm

Sat Dec 30 17:41:02 2006 you to. nm
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• Talon, below you said you were surprised there were no comments about Saddam ... sm - PandaBear

Sat Dec 30 16:19:56 2006 PandaBear
I'm sad they hanged Saddam.

Here's what I think the ideal punishment for him would have been: Tie him up to a post in Times Square and let whoever wanted to pass by and throw rotten fruit and garbage at him. Give him bread and water to eat. And let him ROT along with the garbage strewn around him. And since it's winter and New York - that's assuming he doesn't freeze first. Let him freeze - he'll soon thaw out where he's going.

Sorry - that's how I feel. Hanging was too easy.

*** • there is the Panda we all know. - sad

Sat Dec 30 16:51:15 2006 sad
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*** • You are so demented.... - You're Disgusting!

Sat Dec 30 16:40:48 2006 You're Disgusting!
and let little innocent children witness the scenario you describe. How sweet! NOT!!!!!!!!!!

You sound like another one on this board who's compltely lost it.

*** • Give him bread and water? Nah. Make him catch the rotten fruit to eat. - BigM

Sat Dec 30 16:28:40 2006 BigM
I totally agree. He should have suffered much worse.

****** • I agree - maybe use a wood chipper - hanging too easy - Granny

Sat Dec 30 17:08:49 2006 Granny
nm

********* • Your post made me think of Fargo and the wood chipper scene nm - Patsy

Sat Dec 30 17:11:37 2006 Patsy
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************ • LOL - me 2

Sat Dec 30 17:27:53 2006 me 2
nm

****** • - You're Disgusting!

Sat Dec 30 16:41:38 2006 You're Disgusting!
And they have fruit trees growing in Times Square do they?

• Does anyone have a yummy vegetarian vegetable soup recipe they'd like to share? TIA! - Sandy

Sat Dec 30 14:28:50 2006 Sandy
.

*** • Thanks so much for your input. :) - Sandy

Sat Dec 30 16:38:57 2006 Sandy

*** • Yes! Not your usual veggie soup, but good and healthy sm - Shelene

Sat Dec 30 15:44:57 2006 Shelene
My family loves this soup:

In large kettle combine tomatoes, onions, yellow squash, zukkini, bok choy, garlic, escarole ( chop all veg of course) add a box of vegetable boullion. I make Orzo pasta with it and pour soup over pasta with grated cheese. Very good and good for you too. :)

****** • Sounds good - I'm going to try this one. - txmt

Sat Dec 30 15:50:21 2006 txmt
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*** • The only think I can contribute is put soy sauce in a regular sm - shoots

Sat Dec 30 14:42:39 2006 shoots
veggie soup recipe and for some reason it really makes it taste meaty, though I'm not sure if that's what you want, lol, but it's vegetarian anyway.

****** • - My opinion

Sat Dec 30 14:46:47 2006 My opinion
Soy sauce is notoriously high in salt, so whatever benefits you get from eating the veggies will be negated by the soy sauce and you'll end up with blood pressure a mile high and heaven only knows what else.

********* • LOL! It's just salt. I didn't say you had to dump the whole bottle in there. - shoots

Sat Dec 30 15:00:10 2006 shoots
Oh, the evils of salt in your soup.

************ • Salt raises my BP so high I might have a stroke if I eat soup. J/K, kinda. - nm

Sat Dec 30 16:29:51 2006 nm

*************** • I know what you mean - nm

Sat Dec 30 16:45:39 2006 nm
Salt is a big no no. Never eat anything with salt in it. You might as well drink a bottle of Draino!

************ • - My Opinion

Sat Dec 30 16:03:18 2006 My Opinion
You say it's "just salt". "Just salt" kills thousands of people yearly, sends thousands more to the ER, and makes health insurance rates go through the roof for the rest of us. Salt is NOT healthy, so don't advocate it. Then LEARN TO EAT HEALTHY!

*************** • it's not the salt that's causing that - nm

Sat Dec 30 17:53:44 2006 nm

*** • See Recipe below - Heres a Great One

Sat Dec 30 14:41:01 2006 Heres a Great One
16-3/4 ounces crushed tomatoes
188 ounces water
1 cup chopped carrots
1 cup string beans
1 cup corn
1 cup diced turnips
1/2 cup bell peppers
1/2 cup diced onions
3/4 cup sliced yellow squash
3/4 cup sliced zuchinni
1 cup of chopped broccoli
1 cup of chopped cauliflower
1-1/2 cups of fres asparagus
2 cups of sliced mushrooms
1 cup of green peas
3 cups of cubed potatoes
4 cups of fresh spinach
2/3 cup collard greens
2 cups of great northern beans
2 cups pinto beans
3/4 cup lima beans
2 cups lentil beans
3 cups of kale
1 peeled acorn squash
4 avocados sliced and peeled

I mix all this in my crockpot with the liquid, add salt and pepper and heat up until the veggies are cooked. Pour in a bowl and serve. It is delicius and as you can so, sooooo healthy too.

****** • Not only does that sound yummy but very healthy too! - Thanks!

Sat Dec 30 16:16:32 2006 Thanks!
I believe I'll make your recipe tomorrow night for dinner. Thanks again.

*** • Open can, mix contents with one can of water, heat (sorry). - billybob

Sat Dec 30 14:34:41 2006 billybob

****** • Hey, that's my recipe! Copyright infringement! LOL - Virginia

Sat Dec 30 14:46:08 2006 Virginia

• Bringing up the execution of Saddam... - Kersten

Sat Dec 30 13:09:29 2006 Kersten
Did any of you see the footage of his hanging? I didn't see his actual hanging of course, and I didn't see or search for footage of his body, but I was shocked as I watched on my home page the video they have accessible of the hanging. It had no sound (not like it would matter as I don't speak Arabic), but they showed the process of his hanging up to the point where they put the noose around his neck. My heart started beating really fast and I was going to click off right when it stopped.

I know you can search and find some pretty gruesome images on the internet as I have inadvertently done so with still pictures once in a blue moon, but I was just sort of surprised to see it on my home page provided by my ISP and brought to me by CNN. I guess our society has brought back public executions for all to see. Instead of them being held in the town square we just go online.

*** • I expect the whole thing will be on youtube before long. I have to admit - Patsy

Sat Dec 30 13:26:49 2006 Patsy
as much animosity as I feel toward him, I wasn't crazy about seeing the video and subsequent picture of his dead body. On the other hand, his victims were denied any shred of dignity with respect to their deaths. Those who hate him will revel in it; those who adore him will hold it up as evidence of his marytdom (not sure if I spelled that right -- it doesn't look right no matter how I spell it!).

*** • I saw exactly what you saw. It didn't seem real to me. I wasn't affected by it at all. sm - ss

Sat Dec 30 13:18:03 2006 ss
not sure what that says about me; I'm a sensitive person. I don't even like hitting butterflies with my car! But that is a sick, sick human being.

• Hate to be stupid, but where are the archives? - anon

Sat Dec 30 12:04:06 2006 anon
nm

*** • I'll repost this from below. - billybob

Sat Dec 30 12:12:17 2006 billybob
Here is a link --latest posts are at the BOTTOM. This lists every thread (not every post) but if you click the link you can view the entire thread. I've had a couple of minor technical problems with it, but nothing serious.

****** • thx - oops

Sat Dec 30 12:22:24 2006 oops
nm

• Looking for a different/unique way to make a baked/roast whole chicken. sm - MichelleJ

Sat Dec 30 11:55:11 2006 MichelleJ
I usually use tarragon, garlic, and a little seasoned salt and then roast the chicken in the oven.

A friend of mine some years back lived in the Middle East after the first Gulf War and said they have a different way of rosting chicken. They use butter between the skin and meat, then sprinkled it with cinnamon and..... some other spices. I can't remember what they were. Seems like maybe curry, but I wouldn't swear to it.

Does anyone know what these spices would be? Or, alternatively, does anyone else have a unique and tasty way of baking a chicken?

Thanks!

*** • These all sound yummy! Thanks for the ideas. nm - MichelleJ

Sat Dec 30 14:59:03 2006 MichelleJ

*** • I take a small pumpkin, stick it in cavity and roast it in oven. - Sam

Sat Dec 30 12:51:39 2006 Sam
Hmmmmm, what flavor!

*** • looks pretty good - found this

Sat Dec 30 12:36:22 2006 found this
INGREDIENTS:
1 fryer chicken, cut into pieces
1/2 cup dry sherry
6 tablespoons honey
2 teaspoons ground cinnamon
1 teaspoon curry powder
1 teaspoon garlic salt

PREPARATION:
Combine dry sherry, honey, cinnamon, curry powder and garlic salt in a bowl and mix. Place chicken in a shallow baking dish and coat evenly with marinade. Place in refrigerator and let sit for at least 1 hour.

Preheat grill. Remove Chicken from marinade and place chicken pieces on grill over medium fire and grill for about 10 to 12 minutes per side. Because of the honey in the marinade for this recipe you will need to keep a close eye on the chicken while it is grilling to be sure it doesn't burn. Remove chicken from grill when done and serve. Chicken is done when there is no longer any pink inside and the juices run clear.

*** • I cut an orange or tangerine in half, rub the skin with it, quarter it and put it ..sm - me

Sat Dec 30 12:07:27 2006 me
in the cavity. You can make a compound butter by mixing softened butter, crushed garlic and any fresh herbs (I like thyme, mint and rosemary) and separate the skin from the meat and shove the compound butter in. I also put a quartered sweet onion and some celery in the cavity.

I recently made a turkey in this manner, adn it was really good.

I also cook my chicken or turkey with the breast down, and sprinkle some "seasoned salt" on the exposed skin after rubbing it with some of the compound butter.

If you are going to grill just the chicken breast, dust it heavily with a really good quality curry powder, cover with plain (unsweetened) yogurt and some organic meat tenderizer ( I use the one made with papaya), let it sit for 4-5 hours or overnight and then grill. Leftovers I serve in a pita bread with cucumber sauce.

****** • Oh, oranges. That sounds yummy. We've always used bananas and kiwi fruit in ours - Debra

Sat Dec 30 12:52:59 2006 Debra

********* • We tried the bananas and kiwi before too (sm) - Nanna M. in ME

Sat Dec 30 12:58:16 2006 Nanna M. in ME
but have found that a fresh pineapple is tastier. And when we want our chicken to have that extra zing, we'll throw in a couple of whole mangos (unpeeled) for good measure and it comes out perfect. Mr. Chow's/Spagos has nothing on us!

************ • LOL. Sorry, but how the heck to you squeeze all that into a chicken? - nm

Sat Dec 30 13:00:35 2006 nm

*************** • SM - Nanna M. in ME

Sat Dec 30 13:04:12 2006 Nanna M. in ME
Every chicken has a hole (cavity). You simply take the fruit, pop it (or stuff it) in the hole (cavity) and bake it all. When it's done, go inside the hole (cavity) and pull out the fruit. Round file it. Put the chicken on a plate, slice and serve. It comes out very juicy and moist.

****************** • Sounds good. I'll have to try it. - elllap

Sat Dec 30 13:14:44 2006 elllap

*** • - hope you like it

Sat Dec 30 12:04:51 2006 hope you like it
roll 2 lemons on the counter to loosen the juice and then prick all over the lemons with a fork. put the lemons inside the chicken with a spring of parsley and thyme.

Mix some garlic, salt, pepper, parsley and olive oil. Place that in between the skin and meat and also on the outside of the skin.

*** • I use a lot of taco seasoning when baking chicken nowadays (sm) - hvlmt

Sat Dec 30 12:04:36 2006 hvlmt
I sometimes roll pieces in melted butter and then coat with taco seasoning - sometimes I mix taco seasoning in potato buds and bake.... strange as it seems - it is not as spicy as you would think. Good luck!

****** • Try this - nm

Sat Dec 30 13:07:17 2006 nm
we have found dusting a whole chicken in cocoa is much better than taco seasoning. The end result is a chocolate chicken. Here in our house, we LOVE chicken and LOVE chocolate so this recipe is a match made in heaven to us!

********* • Can't for the life of me even imagine that but you know what? Going to try it! Thx. :) nm - hvlmt

Sat Dec 30 17:32:51 2006 hvlmt

********* • We've tried that before. <Sm> - Charlotte

Sat Dec 30 13:34:22 2006 Charlotte
But around the Christmas holidays, for that extra festive touch, we stuff the chicken cavity with maraschino cherries so the outcome is a chocolate covered cherry chicken. It's delicious and so pretty too because the juice from the cherries dyes the chicken red, and with the cocoa dusting it comes out of the oven a brown color with red hue...

• Hey billybob, sorry to read you sm - Kersten

Sat Dec 30 10:23:38 2006 Kersten
are closing this site. I'm glad you have another application to use what you've built here. I agree with you that I think once the dust settles people will probably tend to post on one site more than the other, but I do think most would visit both boards just to see what was up. Lots of people travel between the various MT sites. If you change your mind and decide to leave this board open I know I'll visit both.

I still love the hover pop-up for the message text. Too cool.

• Okay - flame away here. What is so bad about a paid subscription site? - sm

Sat Dec 30 09:56:57 2006 sm
I have never understood what the big deal is about paying $6 a month to have all those boards at my disposal and not have to worry about a bunch of trolls. It was an excellent site and there were a ton of us over there until a miscommunication/unfortunate event concerning a difference of opinion and how it was handled between there and MTS and I still say it was not the owner's fault. But I have never ever understood what is so bad about paying $6 a month? Are we that cheap? You don't think it is worth that pithy amount to keep trolls out? There were rarely deletions of heated discussions unless they really really got ugly. What's the deal - I would really like to know.

*** • There's nothing wrong with paid subscription MT sites so 'nuff said! - Kim

Sat Dec 30 16:53:09 2006 Kim
I've found MTD to be an excellent site, filled with professionals, all of whom provide excellent information and insight into our industry. Many MTs here are ticked to the inth degree because they didn't think of this pay-for concept first. The founders of MTD started it and it's been successful ever since. If you want 100% juice - NO concentrate - and want the REAL PULSE of the MT community, go there, but do stay away from MT Stars (green newbies), Sci fi (old yackity-yack grannies who live in the dark ages) and the AOL message board (the place is dead).

Good luck!

Kim in Queens, NY

****** • The real pulse of the MT community? Hardly. The site is dead. And all the content there - sm

Sat Dec 30 18:05:47 2006 sm
came from many of us HERE before the board was a pay board. The content of that site did not "belong" to the Morkens. We you aware that Mary Morken had been an MT a very short time when she started that site? She admitted after many years she had never even done acute care. I don't hang out on Sci-Med but I have been an MT for many, many years and it is my opinion that if you are looking for true professional MTs, that is where you'd want to go.

*** • You're talking about MTD? I wouldn't go there if it were free. BTDT. Ugh. nm - Becky

Sat Dec 30 12:43:05 2006 Becky

****** • MTD is my favorite site bar none!! They can't be beat - Tricksie

Sat Dec 30 13:09:48 2006 Tricksie
It's always so professional and informative there, unlike any other board around. And that explains why they've been around so long and people actually pay to go there because they're GREAT!!

********* • Oh goodness gracious. There is nothing there. I was there years ago, all the way through S - Becky

Sat Dec 30 16:05:41 2006 Becky
to when it went to pay, and have paid a month here and there over the years. It is a big zero. Sorry, but I don't know where you get your notion of what constitutes "professional."

********* • Tricksie's been tricked hasn't she? MTD has been around for years, big deal, when - No name

Sat Dec 30 14:31:11 2006 No name
they went to a pay site the site was dead and is still dead. There aren't that many posts and there aren't that many members. Who in their right mind would actually pay money to go to a discussion board? How dumb. Mavis is right on, it is a nazi site.

************ • Apparently you are paying - Ltd

Sat Dec 30 16:37:52 2006 Ltd
to go there since you seem to know everything that's going on there. Say what you will. MTD is a very professional site and I LOVE IT! Now go away shoo-fly!

********* • It's the web nazi site. nm - mavis

Sat Dec 30 13:38:31 2006 mavis
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************ • LOL When I think about it, sm - Kersten

Sat Dec 30 14:43:12 2006 Kersten
From what I recall, I don't know who deletes more inconsequential stuff - MTD or MT Stars. Strange stuff, at least to me. I don't know why they care(d). Toss up. I didn't care about MTD going to pay. I knew I wouldn't pay and MT Stars deletes so much stuff. I rarely go, but I always notice there's one page of the same date. The only post I made at all in a year was one and that one they deleted. LOL! I think I posted a link of another website someone asked about.

*************** • I meant to say there's a whole page of different dates (as in not many posts at all). - Kersten

Sat Dec 30 14:47:16 2006 Kersten

*** • I think its pretty stupid to pay to waste time. - nm

Sat Dec 30 11:39:42 2006 nm

*** • The Morkens are rich, rich, compared to most people who post on these sites. sm - Look

Sat Dec 30 11:17:58 2006 Look
We were not paying for her husband's Alzheimer's care, but for the mansion they were building in the woods to house all of their family members. A huge mansion. Probably over 7200 square feet, on our dime. Let her buy it herself.

****** • Good for them - I wish I were SM - billybob

Tue Jan 2 14:55:51 2007 billybob
and I wish I had the chance to do as much as she did to make information and resources available to the industry.

I think that making the site subscription-only was a big mistake, but it was her decision to make.

****** • You sound totally consumed with jealousy. - ShameOnYou!

Sat Dec 30 13:16:52 2006 ShameOnYou!
And you'll probably get even more green with envy when I tell you our house is over 5,000 square feet, discounting our theatre that's also drop dead gorgeous!

********* • And you sound like A Morken - nm

Sat Dec 30 15:29:23 2006 nm
A

************ • and you sound like a merkin!! nm - mavis

Sat Dec 30 16:06:52 2006 mavis
s

********* • I was saying the charging was not for medical expenses for sm - you missed the point

Sat Dec 30 14:49:37 2006 you missed the point
her stricken husband. It was to feather a very large, very expensive nest.

No, have never been jealous of the Morken's or their money, or the size of their home, or yours. Mine is 2400 square feet, and all mine, plus the kitties. Plenty of room, not jealous at all. (and i would not pay to feather your nest, either)

****** • They remind me of the family on TLC who had a million kids, a huge house, etc, etc. nm - ISI

Sat Dec 30 11:50:47 2006 ISI
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********* • It sounds like they're very blessed. Good for them!! - nm

Sat Dec 30 13:19:03 2006 nm

*** • I am just that cheap. nm - Becky

Sat Dec 30 10:49:41 2006 Becky

****** • What's new? - nm

Sat Dec 30 16:35:12 2006 nm

********* • Her bags aren't cheap, are they Becky. - Love a Dooney myself

Sat Dec 30 16:44:19 2006 Love a Dooney myself

*** • I already pay to two other sites (not MT) and I don't want to keep adding to that bill. - enuf is enuf. nm

Sat Dec 30 10:19:13 2006 enuf is enuf. nm

*** • I already lose money by coming to the boards. I should pay to lose more. :) Seriously sm - Ann Swer

Sat Dec 30 10:11:25 2006 Ann Swer
Seriously, though, why should "I" pay somebody to make money off me. I helped out extensively on the MTD word board. So they should make money for me to help their posters? (Of course, not just me, I understand that, but you get my point.)

And though I was kidding in my opening line, there is a serious vein in that.

****** • Oh, and I should clarify, I do not care if board owners make money off me in the form sm - Ann Swer

Sat Dec 30 10:17:58 2006 Ann Swer
of ads--just try not to go hog wild! :) My point was I don't want to pay you and then also work for you.

********* • Well, I certainly get way more out that I put in so a small price to pay for me. - nm

Sat Dec 30 10:40:04 2006 nm

************ • And that's exactly why some stayed at MTD and paid. They felt it was worth it. nm - Ann Swer

Sat Dec 30 10:44:13 2006 Ann Swer
x

*** • First of all, yes I am that cheap, but more importantly... - Montyna

Sat Dec 30 10:11:20 2006 Montyna
WE built that site. The encyclopedia of information that is MT Daily was contributed by US over years and years. And that burns my buttons.

With MT Daily's loyal community there were so many ways to go about increasing profit. There are so many wildly sucessful internet communities to use as examples.

Maybe the Morken's didn't realize how many of us felt like family and felt hurt when we realized we were more like a commodity. But when it became obvious how many of us felt that way....we pretty much were told it didn't really matter how we felt because we didn't have anywhere else to go.

And you know what? We did. We stayed together and made somewhere else to go. And for every board the bullies take down and the horrible trail of hurt all over the place, we're still together. Sort of.

Some hero (or idiot) says "I DON'T THINK SO!" sets up a new home for us.

****** • I had a paid sponsorship and when it went to a paid site I lost the hits. $1,000. down - sm

Sat Dec 30 14:35:33 2006 sm
the tubes cause I was only 2 months into it. When I asked for my money back or at least partial they said no. I was pissed as hell and vowed to never go back to that site or recommend it to anyone.

****** • Please - Wake Up

Sat Dec 30 13:22:07 2006 Wake Up
Are you a child or an adult? If the latter you should know by now that if you're looking for family you're not going to find it on the Internet. THAT you find in REAL LIFE.

****** • And Horray for those hero's (or idiot's). - :o)

Sat Dec 30 10:46:47 2006 :o)

*** • what's wrong is that most people leave. - billybob

Sat Dec 30 10:10:39 2006 billybob
MT Daily's Main Word Board has shrunk from 1500 posts a day to about 150, which indicates that 90% of the people have left.

The truth is that it was worth that when everybody was posting there. But when 90% of the posters leave, 90% of the value leaves.

****** • also, see msg - mavis

Sat Dec 30 11:02:32 2006 mavis
what flew all over me (as we say in the south) is that they requested help with their difficult word list (or whatever they called it) right before they went to pay status, knowingly asking for input for free and then charging for it.

********* • - Serves you right

Sat Dec 30 13:25:12 2006 Serves you right
Because you should know a real professional never gives out business advice for free.

*** • That's $72 a year and for some that truly is an extra bill they can't afford. I used to - taw/sm

Sat Dec 30 10:10:00 2006 taw/sm
do the paid subscription site, too. It's still there, isn't it? Those who choose can go there. Though, as I recall, I was able to write that off on my taxes!

****** • I believe it is $49 if you sign up for year. And yes you can write off. - nm

Sat Dec 30 10:35:43 2006 nm

*** • I assume you are talking about MT Daily? I have a problem with someone - sm

Sat Dec 30 10:08:38 2006 sm
taking posts that ALL of us made - that is what MADE MT Daily, all of our posts, and then CHARGING people to have access to them. Registration would have been a different thing. It would have required us to register to be there, but not CHARGE us to have access to the site that we made what it was with our posts. Now if it had been a site filled with information put there by the Morkens, their property, that would be different but what made the site was all the posts over the years from all of us, all our help, all our advice. MT Daily was just where it was housed. I don't want to pay for that. Heck if because of Hu's Alzheimer's Mary needed to create an income for herself so she could take care of him, and she just said that, I would have gladly DONATED $6 a month to visit the site to help out. But making it a subscription site was a mistake I think.

And now that MT Daily is a pay site, there is not much activity there at all. I have paid for a month here and there ju

****** • - Yolanda

Sat Dec 30 13:28:23 2006 Yolanda
Here you are complaining about the site but yet you're still paying to go there. How crazy is THAT?

********* • Did I say I was paying to go there? No. I said in the YEARS since it went to a pay site, - sm

Sat Dec 30 17:40:11 2006 sm
I paid for a month or two. I think two. And went there and saw there was nothing going on, didn't keep going back and didn't keep paying. Lots of people have said over the years that they paid for a month just so they could pop in and see what it's like. They found the same thing I did - that it's nothing like it used to be. It's dead.

How crazy are YOU to criticize someone for a post they made that does not concern you in any way?

*** • I tried it for a while..just was not my cup of tea. IMO - boo

Sat Dec 30 10:03:56 2006 boo
,,

• Can't find original message, but in addition to no mail Tuesday SM - nonessential?

Sat Dec 30 09:55:22 2006 nonessential?
I just learned our bank will be closed Tuesday as well. I think it's optional for them, as the decree is for all nonessential gov't offices to be closed, i.e., the FBI and CIA will be operating. LOL, sorry, struck me funny.

At any rate, glad I found out about the bank today and not Tuesday, yipes.

*** • I don't know how true this is, but I was told it is federally illegal for a bank to - nm

Sat Dec 30 10:16:04 2006 nm
be closed for more than three days in a row.

****** • Our banks are all open on Saturday here. Maybe they count that. nm - Becky

Sat Dec 30 10:52:07 2006 Becky

• Billybob, obviously there's a lot of us....(begging msg inside) - Montyna

Sat Dec 30 09:15:11 2006 Montyna
very thankful for you. It's been quite a few years now since MT Daily started charging. Before that MT Daily and MT Chat co-existed in MT Land. Maybe like Russia and the USA during the Cold War years, but still...

Since then it's been out and out guerilla warfare. Board after board after board. So many women have set something up or contributed to a community, been petted and made to feel important. And always, always, always something happens.

There's been several posts about this just being the way "women" act. That's just plain not true. This isn't how women act. There are small groups of bullies who at this point have been made to feel they are running the show. And everytime a board owner tucks her tail between her legs and slinks off (I can say that, I did it too) because someone's hurt her badly, the bullies puff up and feel more whatever-the-bejeebes thrill it is that bullies get off of on.

I don't think it's just the MT Community and I know it's not

*** • If we could just bring ourselves to ignore the rude, bullying posts and not respond at all - (sm)

Sat Dec 30 10:17:22 2006 (sm)
wouldn't that take care of a lot of the problem? A bully who is ignored will soon tire and go elsewhere. Now, I know it's hard to do and I myself am guilty of responding to those obvious troll-type posts, but if the upstanding MTs on this board (and come on, we all know what I mean by that) could come together and make a vow to themselves and to others that they will not participate in such discussions that are so obviously meant to demean another poster, then don't you think a lot of the problems here would be solved?

*** • absolutely wrong on two counts. - billybob

Sat Dec 30 09:34:45 2006 billybob
1. I hate registration boards. I want the Word Board run this way, and I'm trying to make software that will keep out spammers and trolls without making registration necessary.
2. It would still be competing for the MT Spot "audience" even if the "product" was in a slightly different category.

****** • Okay. Will you please answer two questions? - Montyna

Sat Dec 30 09:53:01 2006 Montyna
1. Why do you hate registration boards?

2. There is no software in the world that can filter out bullies, and that's who's taking down board after board, not spammers or trolls. Not even you are going to be able to code a mind-reading program. It can't be done.

(And yes, I know that wasn't a question.)

One more thing, you have put lots of time and effort into The Great Dictator. You are a savvy business man, so of course you're aware of the financial gains involved in giving the market (us) what it wants. I guess you could be one of those few who have no need for more bucks.

And if that's true, that's so unfair! Do you have any idea how much time and effort I've put into the fantasies involving you in a business suit and a corner office? Do you know what effort working that around to some barefoot, unshaven, tanned, half-naked man living off coconuts in a hut on the beach is going to take?

Okay, maybe not so much (shut up, Frankie), but s

********* • Jumping in: I think you will lose people if you go to registration. There are some sm - Ann Swer

Sat Dec 30 10:54:05 2006 Ann Swer
people who are not trolls but who simply like to be anonymous. Shy? I don't know. Maybe just a privacy issue. They just don't want to be out there. You'll cut down on the size of the community. billybob pointed that out in a prior post about MTD. I don't believe it was just the money for many people.

You will cut down on the candidness of discussions, though, with registration. I'm sure we will not see some of the conversations we have seen here if names are used--albeit monikers.

I personally am fine with registration, but it MUST BE a threaded board. My personal preference.

************ • Can you have a board where you.... - Montyna

Sat Dec 30 11:13:01 2006 Montyna
have to sign in to post, but could have the option to post anonymously?

And again, MT Spot is still there. If you have a problem or something to get off your chest, but it's one of those things you don't want the whole world to know it's you, MT Spot will still be there.

Money isn't made from registrations. Money is made from the visitors to the site. Over the years there have been so many posters who are funny, smart or just plain fascinating, that they have their own big fan bases. Even if there's only a dozen or so registered posters, there's still going to be thousands of visitors a day. For some of us, it's like reading the comics every day.

*************** • I'm registered at another site under two different names (sm) - nm

Sat Dec 30 12:15:25 2006 nm
The one I use anonymously if I want to post about something too close to my heart and don't want flamed.

********* • 2. That's exactly what I want the software to do, as discussed below. - billybob

Sat Dec 30 10:33:51 2006 billybob
If you feel someone's bullying violates community standards, report it as a troll post. They just get deleted until they decide to stop annoying everyone else.

BTW I'm sure some board owners would put me in that category. Fair enough if it reflects the feelings of the board regulars, instead of just the owner.

************ • Yes, I have too much time on my hands this morning. - Montyna

Sat Dec 30 10:54:00 2006 Montyna
Trolls are not real. Bored, lonely, psychopathic stalkers are. And there are more then a few around who will gleefully spend years pushing that "troll post" button every time whoever their latest target is.

If every member of a board is a monitor, all at the same time, then the "trolls" are monitors too. Seems to me like sure fire havoc.

****** • But, BB, you would be surprised how nice my company's message board is since we HAVE - nm

Sat Dec 30 09:41:43 2006 nm
post with our real first names (and last initial) or get deleted.

********* • well here's what I want. - billybob

Sat Dec 30 10:05:46 2006 billybob
Here are the rules of the board I want.

1. Anyone can post, except #2.
2. Posts that have characteristics of spam (such as multiple links) will be filtered and never show up. If you're accidentally blocked, you can rewrite your post and try again.
3. When you view a post, you will see "REPORT SPAM" and a "REPORT TROLL" links. If you see a post that you feel violates "community standards" you can report it.
4. If SEVERAL people who have already posted to the board report a troll post, it will automatically be replaced by "troll post deleted" and the IP will be blocked for as long as it stays on the board (around here, 12 to 24 hours). If SEVERAL people report a spam post it will simply be deleted, and maybe the filter will be tweaked to delete similar messages in the future.
5. Posters have to accept the possibility that they may have posts deleted by the community if they are felt to be out of line, and at worst they will be blocked for a day or so.

************ • I should add that this would work best where "offensive" posts are minimal SM - billybob

Sat Dec 30 10:47:13 2006 billybob
It seems ideal on a board like the Word Board, where posts don't need to be deleted (I've never deleted a post, although I've edited about a dozen, mostly for including confidential information). It could break down when things get out of hand. I think it's as much a tool to keep trolls away in the first place than catching them after the fact.

I'm sensitive to the problems Frankie had at THFS because he made more than 10 posts an hour and the software automatically banned him. I want to be careful not to block people inadvertently.

************ • Won't work. - Montyna

Sat Dec 30 10:43:41 2006 Montyna
You're operating under the assumption that the we're all willing to go into battle. You've seen what's been happening. You'll have a board of only trolls and troll hunters. Which obviously is fun for a few.

But the rest of us, probably vast hoards of us, just want I want to mosey in, curl up in the lounge, gossip, chat and argue.

I don't want to do battle every day. I don't want to help filter out spam or trolls. I don't want to bump around in the dark, trying to guess which are the bad guys and which are the good guys.

My 18-year-old son has been involved with a Robotek forum (yes, geek boys one and all) since he was 12. People come and go, but there is this core group that have been best friends from all over the world for over six years now. There are expectations from members, one of them involves agreeing to take your turn as a monitor. The monitors are announced, and when a post is taken down it's logged and the monitor who took it down posts why.

************ • How about something like craigslist does? - sm

Sat Dec 30 10:32:08 2006 sm
Where posters and "flag" posts and after enough flags the posts are deleted somehow.

*************** • could be (I haven't seen that) except perhaps SM - billybob

Sat Dec 30 10:38:39 2006 billybob
only people who have posted to the current board are counted. This assumes an ongoing community, and assumes that one community may have tighter or looser standards than another. I don't know how craigslist decides which flags get counted.

*************** • That was supposed to be "posters can... not "posters and..." - ugh

Sat Dec 30 10:32:43 2006 ugh

************ • Add me to the "sounds great" group. :) nm - Lost

Sat Dec 30 10:29:42 2006 Lost

************ • Sounds great to me. nm - Kersten

Sat Dec 30 10:25:25 2006 Kersten

************ • That sounds great. - nm

Sat Dec 30 10:22:11 2006 nm

*** • I love this idea. nm - Lost

Sat Dec 30 09:28:06 2006 Lost

*** • Oh, I forgot. About ads..... - Montyna

Sat Dec 30 09:26:42 2006 Montyna
Advertising is fine. Anyone who would have problems with you being compensated for your skill and time wouldn't be part of the group who'd want to be in such a place anyway. And if/when someone complained about one, at least you'd know who you were talking with.

Just remember....sun, sand, half-naked men. (Shut up, Frankie. These would be my half-naked men.)

:)

*** • Great idea. nm - Becky

Sat Dec 30 09:23:50 2006 Becky

• FYI - DH just found out that the post office will be closed on Tues. - Spud

Sat Dec 30 08:47:11 2006 Spud
xx

*** • Oops, sorry OP - I must have blinked, lol. I posted above, too. - sorry

Sat Dec 30 09:56:16 2006 sorry

*** • Yes, all federal offices will be closed due to Ford's death. (DH is with the IRS). nm - Easyrider

Sat Dec 30 09:21:24 2006 Easyrider

• Question - sm - nony

Sat Dec 30 08:16:11 2006 nony
When you get to the bottom of the board, how do you get to the previous posts?

*** • they are listed in the archives. - billybob

Sat Dec 30 08:31:22 2006 billybob
Here is a link --latest posts are at the BOTTOM. This lists every thread (not every post) but if you click the link you can view the entire thread. I've had a couple of minor technical problems with it, but nothing serious.

• I have a question about system restore. - (sm)

Sat Dec 30 07:33:44 2006 (sm)
Don't laugh at me, I really don't know this.

There are a few folders I'm looking for. I swore I backed them off but may have just deleted them instead. Would I be able to get these folders back if I system restored back about 1 year (since I'm not sure when I did it)? Could I then change the date back to today without suffering any untoward incidents?

*** • If deleted, system restore will not bring back files. - no, sorry

Sat Dec 30 07:53:12 2006 no, sorry

*** • Check your Recycle Bin. If you deleted them but ..sm... - ecphhc

Sat Dec 30 07:52:12 2006 ecphhc
haven't emptied Recycle Bin in a year, the folders might be in there.

*** • It doesn't restore or change data files. It works on programs and system files. - nm

Sat Dec 30 07:37:14 2006 nm

• Colleen, are you there? Bravo is running a Friday Night Lights marathon right now. - jj

Sat Dec 30 07:04:25 2006 jj
x

*** • I'm not a football person but I *love* that coach! Beautiful man. That is if you're SM - Becky

Sat Dec 30 08:25:57 2006 Becky
talkign about the TV series. The movie I never saw.

*** • I'm here! My whole family is still asleep (10:15 a.m.) and I need to get (sm) - Coleen

Sat Dec 30 07:20:16 2006 Coleen
Moving on the cleaning and laundry, so I'm killing time at the 'puter so's I don't go upstairs and start yelling. Heh.

And yep, I have all ten epis set to tape on the Tivo so I can rewatch them and talk the rest of my family into following the show.

God, I love that show. Love, love, love.

****** • LOL. I knew you loved it. My first thought was you had to know. - jj

Sat Dec 30 07:22:47 2006 jj
x

********* • Do you watch/follow the show? God, it's good. And I think even if you're not into (sm) - Coleen

Sat Dec 30 07:27:36 2006 Coleen
"sports stories" (which admittedly, I am), it's brilliantly written/directed.

And Connie Wasshername and Kyle Chandler are the singularly most realistic married couple I've ever seen on a TV show. They're just magic!

The show pretty much makes me cry every week. And I'm a cold-hearted, cynical bitch, for the most part. Heh.

I love FNL ... and I adore Heroes, too. Mostly because every week there's a SUPER HERO FIGHT! Woo hoo!

************ • I started watching after you raved about it. I have it on in the background now. - jj

Sat Dec 30 07:52:10 2006 jj

********* • And, since you are killing time, how about setting up another armchair critics for us? - jj

Sat Dec 30 07:23:51 2006 jj

************ • Oh, jj ... I am "technically not so swift," as Sparky the Wonder Husband calls it (sm) - Coleen

Sat Dec 30 07:29:14 2006 Coleen
I type really fast ... I'm articulate, sometimes funny.

But my technical savvy, or lack there is, is almost comical.

Example: I'm afraid of Myspace.

*************** • I think you be swift, you just be lazy, with sparky around. LOL. - jj

Sat Dec 30 10:21:03 2006 jj

****************** • Well, yeah, there's that, too. LOL! nm - Coleen

Sat Dec 30 11:53:38 2006 Coleen

• Just woke up-see all the posts about BB shutting down this board - BB, please read (sm) - txmt

Sat Dec 30 06:28:41 2006 txmt
I can't find it, but BB I hope you reconsider. Since I can't find the post, I don't know what your reasons are, but if it has to do with "splitting" the MT community, I don't think it will happen. I think MTS will implode on itself as someone else said fairly soon - don't mean to sound all sentimental, but that day when all there was up on MTS was the Christmas tree, and I had something I had really wanted to post, which I don't do very often, and there was no where to go,I felt very sad (I know, it sounds silly) but then found you. You have my loyalty forever and I don't need to run down the other board to be loyal to you.

*** • I can't find bb's post about shutting it down either, but I wanted to say that it doesn't - sm

Sat Dec 30 09:42:13 2006 sm
split the MT community - it's just another option for posting. There are lots of MT boards around, and there is certainly room for one more.

Please keep it open, bb.

*** • I totally agree with this. Christmas tree, then a very juvenile SM - i agree

Sat Dec 30 07:00:34 2006 i agree
page airing a bunch of dirty laundry, now this other person has "bought" the board. OH. WELL. The old board owners shut down at a moment's notice..there were important posts there. They left all of us high and dry - I used their board to get to some other places from their links and I was without those. Did they care? No.

****** • It was a forum they provided for us to use for FREE. They (and BB) owe you nothing. - You seem to feel

Sat Dec 30 07:57:57 2006 You seem to feel
that they owe you something. I just don't get that. I wish all the posters so vehemently airing their "hatred" of the old Spot owners would step up to the plate and open their own board, please everybody there, make it the biggest, best MT board. Do something about it, don't just whine about how You've been hurt.

*** • I remember someone posting about the worst Christmas ever and - I hope she is ok

Sat Dec 30 06:34:53 2006 I hope she is ok
I went back to see if she said anything more..

****** • Right after she posted and several people responded is when the board was taken down. - That really bothered

Sat Dec 30 15:44:03 2006 That really bothered
me that this person reached out for help and then BAM! Nothing on the board but a Christmas tree blinking. I kept wondering about that person and wondering why they shut the board down with that post on there. Maybe it was MEM who was having the worst Christmas ever....

****** • I did too. Wonder what happened to her? - nm

Sat Dec 30 07:37:35 2006 nm
x

• Talon - I read your blog - about the self-preservation thing...sm - I do that too.

Sat Dec 30 06:24:13 2006 I do that too.
I never knew why, I just know I used to always cause friction in an otherwise great relationship/friendship just to see if they'd leave. I guess I was testing them to see if they'd leave before I got in too deep. Just didn't know it.

Learn something new every day. Give Chris a hug for me.

*** • I haven't read Talon's blog but I had a friend who I always thought was "testing" me. - sm

Sat Dec 30 09:51:29 2006 sm
She would all the time ask me for favors, ask me to do this or that for her, sometimes things that were really pushing the limits of what I wanted to do (like calling me when I needed to work and asking me if I could PLEASE watch her kids because she had something terribly important that had come up and I was the only one she could turn to...), and MOST of the time, once I agreed, she'd call back and say "oh, never mind..." I truly think she was testing to see if I would go out of my way to help her or tell her to f*ck off.

*** • Do the same thing but only realized it several yrs ago,-I've already lived most of my life - txmt

Sat Dec 30 06:31:03 2006 txmt
I'm at least aware of it now, and I'm working on it.

• BB, if you decide to keep this board up, you know we'll support you ... sm - Easyrider

Sat Dec 30 02:23:40 2006 Easyrider
But no matter what you decide, I want to thank you for the time and hard work you've put into this board this past week. You were the glue that held us all together, and I cannot express how much it has meant.

*** • Ditto that. - nm

Sat Dec 30 09:43:36 2006 nm

*** • What she said. :) nm - Ann Swer

Sat Dec 30 03:21:45 2006 Ann Swer
x

****** • And I so hope BB doesn't shut this one down. I like having both. - Flower

Sat Dec 30 04:58:37 2006 Flower
d

• I'm so confused! sm - Bubbles

Sat Dec 30 00:19:59 2006 Bubbles
Is this board really closing down? I'm not quite sure what is going on. I always went to MTDaily. My subscription ran out while I was sick and I just never really got around to renewing it. Can't actually say I ever went to MTSpot so I'm completely lost when everybody is talking about whatever it is that happened over there. Got an email from one of my old MTDaily buddies who told me about this board so I checked it out. Read below that this one is going to close down. Will someone please tell me where I should be?

*** • Bubbles: Not sure if you are interested but if you - sm

Sat Dec 30 10:01:12 2006 sm
email mtforumaddresses@yahoo.com - your name will be put on a list in case this board or MTS close down unexpectedly. It's just a safety net for those of us who want to stay in contact and have serious withdrawal symptoms!