Clean Slate
Okay - flame away here. What is so bad about a paid subscription site? - sm
Sat Dec 30 09:56:57 2006
I have never understood what the big deal is about paying $6 a month to have all those boards at my disposal and not have to worry about a bunch of trolls. It was an excellent site and there were a ton of us over there until a miscommunication/unfortunate event concerning a difference of opinion and how it was handled between there and MTS and I still say it was not the owner's fault. But I have never ever understood what is so bad about paying $6 a month? Are we that cheap? You don't think it is worth that pithy amount to keep trolls out? There were rarely deletions of heated discussions unless they really really got ugly. What's the deal - I would really like to know.




• Okay - flame away here. What is so bad about a paid subscription site? - sm
Sat Dec 30 09:56:57 2006 sm
I have never understood what the big deal is about paying $6 a month to have all those boards at my disposal and not have to worry about a bunch of trolls. It was an excellent site and there were a ton of us over there until a miscommunication/unfortunate event concerning a difference of opinion and how it was handled between there and MTS and I still say it was not the owner's fault. But I have never ever understood what is so bad about paying $6 a month? Are we that cheap? You don't think it is worth that pithy amount to keep trolls out? There were rarely deletions of heated discussions unless they really really got ugly. What's the deal - I would really like to know.
*** • There's nothing wrong with paid subscription MT sites so 'nuff said! - Kim
Sat Dec 30 16:53:09 2006 Kim
I've found MTD to be an excellent site, filled with professionals, all of whom provide excellent information and insight into our industry. Many MTs here are ticked to the inth degree because they didn't think of this pay-for concept first. The founders of MTD started it and it's been successful ever since. If you want 100% juice - NO concentrate - and want the REAL PULSE of the MT community, go there, but do stay away from MT Stars (green newbies), Sci fi (old yackity-yack grannies who live in the dark ages) and the AOL message board (the place is dead).

Good luck!

Kim in Queens, NY
****** • The real pulse of the MT community? Hardly. The site is dead. And all the content there - sm
Sat Dec 30 18:05:47 2006 sm
came from many of us HERE before the board was a pay board. The content of that site did not "belong" to the Morkens. We you aware that Mary Morken had been an MT a very short time when she started that site? She admitted after many years she had never even done acute care. I don't hang out on Sci-Med but I have been an MT for many, many years and it is my opinion that if you are looking for true professional MTs, that is where you'd want to go.
*** • You're talking about MTD? I wouldn't go there if it were free. BTDT. Ugh. nm - Becky
Sat Dec 30 12:43:05 2006 Becky
****** • MTD is my favorite site bar none!! They can't be beat - Tricksie
Sat Dec 30 13:09:48 2006 Tricksie
It's always so professional and informative there, unlike any other board around. And that explains why they've been around so long and people actually pay to go there because they're GREAT!!
********* • Oh goodness gracious. There is nothing there. I was there years ago, all the way through S - Becky
Sat Dec 30 16:05:41 2006 Becky
to when it went to pay, and have paid a month here and there over the years. It is a big zero. Sorry, but I don't know where you get your notion of what constitutes "professional."
********* • Tricksie's been tricked hasn't she? MTD has been around for years, big deal, when - No name
Sat Dec 30 14:31:11 2006 No name
they went to a pay site the site was dead and is still dead. There aren't that many posts and there aren't that many members. Who in their right mind would actually pay money to go to a discussion board? How dumb. Mavis is right on, it is a nazi site.
************ • Apparently you are paying - Ltd
Sat Dec 30 16:37:52 2006 Ltd
to go there since you seem to know everything that's going on there. Say what you will. MTD is a very professional site and I LOVE IT! Now go away shoo-fly!
********* • It's the web nazi site. nm - mavis
Sat Dec 30 13:38:31 2006 mavis
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************ • LOL When I think about it, sm - Kersten
Sat Dec 30 14:43:12 2006 Kersten
From what I recall, I don't know who deletes more inconsequential stuff - MTD or MT Stars. Strange stuff, at least to me. I don't know why they care(d). Toss up. I didn't care about MTD going to pay. I knew I wouldn't pay and MT Stars deletes so much stuff. I rarely go, but I always notice there's one page of the same date. The only post I made at all in a year was one and that one they deleted. LOL! I think I posted a link of another website someone asked about.
*************** • I meant to say there's a whole page of different dates (as in not many posts at all). - Kersten
Sat Dec 30 14:47:16 2006 Kersten
*** • I think its pretty stupid to pay to waste time. - nm
Sat Dec 30 11:39:42 2006 nm
*** • The Morkens are rich, rich, compared to most people who post on these sites. sm - Look
Sat Dec 30 11:17:58 2006 Look
We were not paying for her husband's Alzheimer's care, but for the mansion they were building in the woods to house all of their family members. A huge mansion. Probably over 7200 square feet, on our dime. Let her buy it herself.
****** • Good for them - I wish I were SM - billybob
Tue Jan 2 14:55:51 2007 billybob
and I wish I had the chance to do as much as she did to make information and resources available to the industry.

I think that making the site subscription-only was a big mistake, but it was her decision to make.
****** • You sound totally consumed with jealousy. - ShameOnYou!
Sat Dec 30 13:16:52 2006 ShameOnYou!
And you'll probably get even more green with envy when I tell you our house is over 5,000 square feet, discounting our theatre that's also drop dead gorgeous!
********* • And you sound like A Morken - nm
Sat Dec 30 15:29:23 2006 nm
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************ • and you sound like a merkin!! nm - mavis
Sat Dec 30 16:06:52 2006 mavis
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********* • I was saying the charging was not for medical expenses for sm - you missed the point
Sat Dec 30 14:49:37 2006 you missed the point
her stricken husband. It was to feather a very large, very expensive nest.

No, have never been jealous of the Morken's or their money, or the size of their home, or yours. Mine is 2400 square feet, and all mine, plus the kitties. Plenty of room, not jealous at all. (and i would not pay to feather your nest, either)
****** • They remind me of the family on TLC who had a million kids, a huge house, etc, etc. nm - ISI
Sat Dec 30 11:50:47 2006 ISI
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********* • It sounds like they're very blessed. Good for them!! - nm
Sat Dec 30 13:19:03 2006 nm
*** • I am just that cheap. nm - Becky
Sat Dec 30 10:49:41 2006 Becky
****** • What's new? - nm
Sat Dec 30 16:35:12 2006 nm
********* • Her bags aren't cheap, are they Becky. - Love a Dooney myself
Sat Dec 30 16:44:19 2006 Love a Dooney myself
*** • I already pay to two other sites (not MT) and I don't want to keep adding to that bill. - enuf is enuf. nm
Sat Dec 30 10:19:13 2006 enuf is enuf. nm
*** • I already lose money by coming to the boards. I should pay to lose more. :) Seriously sm - Ann Swer
Sat Dec 30 10:11:25 2006 Ann Swer
Seriously, though, why should "I" pay somebody to make money off me. I helped out extensively on the MTD word board. So they should make money for me to help their posters? (Of course, not just me, I understand that, but you get my point.)

And though I was kidding in my opening line, there is a serious vein in that.



****** • Oh, and I should clarify, I do not care if board owners make money off me in the form sm - Ann Swer
Sat Dec 30 10:17:58 2006 Ann Swer
of ads--just try not to go hog wild! :) My point was I don't want to pay you and then also work for you.
********* • Well, I certainly get way more out that I put in so a small price to pay for me. - nm
Sat Dec 30 10:40:04 2006 nm
************ • And that's exactly why some stayed at MTD and paid. They felt it was worth it. nm - Ann Swer
Sat Dec 30 10:44:13 2006 Ann Swer
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*** • First of all, yes I am that cheap, but more importantly... - Montyna
Sat Dec 30 10:11:20 2006 Montyna
WE built that site. The encyclopedia of information that is MT Daily was contributed by US over years and years. And that burns my buttons.

With MT Daily's loyal community there were so many ways to go about increasing profit. There are so many wildly sucessful internet communities to use as examples.

Maybe the Morken's didn't realize how many of us felt like family and felt hurt when we realized we were more like a commodity. But when it became obvious how many of us felt that way....we pretty much were told it didn't really matter how we felt because we didn't have anywhere else to go.

And you know what? We did. We stayed together and made somewhere else to go. And for every board the bullies take down and the horrible trail of hurt all over the place, we're still together. Sort of.

Some hero (or idiot) says "I DON'T THINK SO!" sets up a new home for us.


****** • I had a paid sponsorship and when it went to a paid site I lost the hits. $1,000. down - sm
Sat Dec 30 14:35:33 2006 sm
the tubes cause I was only 2 months into it. When I asked for my money back or at least partial they said no. I was pissed as hell and vowed to never go back to that site or recommend it to anyone.
****** • Please - Wake Up
Sat Dec 30 13:22:07 2006 Wake Up
Are you a child or an adult? If the latter you should know by now that if you're looking for family you're not going to find it on the Internet. THAT you find in REAL LIFE.
****** • And Horray for those hero's (or idiot's). - :o)
Sat Dec 30 10:46:47 2006 :o)
*** • what's wrong is that most people leave. - billybob
Sat Dec 30 10:10:39 2006 billybob
MT Daily's Main Word Board has shrunk from 1500 posts a day to about 150, which indicates that 90% of the people have left.

The truth is that it was worth that when everybody was posting there. But when 90% of the posters leave, 90% of the value leaves.
****** • also, see msg - mavis
Sat Dec 30 11:02:32 2006 mavis
what flew all over me (as we say in the south) is that they requested help with their difficult word list (or whatever they called it) right before they went to pay status, knowingly asking for input for free and then charging for it.

********* - Serves you right
Sat Dec 30 13:25:12 2006 Serves you right
Because you should know a real professional never gives out business advice for free.
*** • That's $72 a year and for some that truly is an extra bill they can't afford. I used to - taw/sm
Sat Dec 30 10:10:00 2006 taw/sm
do the paid subscription site, too. It's still there, isn't it? Those who choose can go there. Though, as I recall, I was able to write that off on my taxes!
****** • I believe it is $49 if you sign up for year. And yes you can write off. - nm
Sat Dec 30 10:35:43 2006 nm
*** • I assume you are talking about MT Daily? I have a problem with someone - sm
Sat Dec 30 10:08:38 2006 sm
taking posts that ALL of us made - that is what MADE MT Daily, all of our posts, and then CHARGING people to have access to them. Registration would have been a different thing. It would have required us to register to be there, but not CHARGE us to have access to the site that we made what it was with our posts. Now if it had been a site filled with information put there by the Morkens, their property, that would be different but what made the site was all the posts over the years from all of us, all our help, all our advice. MT Daily was just where it was housed. I don't want to pay for that. Heck if because of Hu's Alzheimer's Mary needed to create an income for herself so she could take care of him, and she just said that, I would have gladly DONATED $6 a month to visit the site to help out. But making it a subscription site was a mistake I think.

And now that MT Daily is a pay site, there is not much activity there at all. I have paid for a month here and there just to see what's going on over there and the answer is not much. It was great while it lasted but it will never be what it was.
****** - Yolanda
Sat Dec 30 13:28:23 2006 Yolanda
Here you are complaining about the site but yet you're still paying to go there. How crazy is THAT?
********* • Did I say I was paying to go there? No. I said in the YEARS since it went to a pay site, - sm
Sat Dec 30 17:40:11 2006 sm
I paid for a month or two. I think two. And went there and saw there was nothing going on, didn't keep going back and didn't keep paying. Lots of people have said over the years that they paid for a month just so they could pop in and see what it's like. They found the same thing I did - that it's nothing like it used to be. It's dead.

How crazy are YOU to criticize someone for a post they made that does not concern you in any way?
*** • I tried it for a while..just was not my cup of tea. IMO - boo
Sat Dec 30 10:03:56 2006 boo
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